This week I got into an exchange with someone whom turned out to be a "Black Hebrew", on a facebook post my one friend started. For those whom might not know, they are like the inverse of Christian Identity, and/or British-Israelism. http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2008/fall/ready-for-war/history-of-hebrew-israeli Here is the thread, with names removed to protect privacy.
"cant believe how many ignornant/stupid people I know personally! So what, if I want to date/talk to a muslim! You are showing your stupidity again.
and his momma is a baptist, so get over yourself!Saturday at 5:58pm · LikeUnlike · 2 I agree Andrea...Ignorance is NOT bliss! It's a cancer.Saturday at 6:06pm · LikeUnlike · 1. You're dating a Muslim? Interestingly, from what I've heard, and read, Muslim men may wed outside their religion, as long as the woman is either Christian, or Jewish, and agrees to allow any children resulting to be raised as Muslims. Also your friends might be concerned because they might have read, and/or seen films such as "Not Without My Daughter". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_Without_My_Daughter Under shariah law, Muslim husbands may impose corporal punishment, as a last resort, before divorce, just like in regards to children. http://cnsnews.com/news/article/uae-official-tries-explain-court-ruling-upholding-muslim-men-s-right-beat-their-wives I trust though that you won't allow any man to mistreat you, regardless of faith tradition. By the way, I don't believe that Muslims are even allowed to date, so to speak. http://islam.about.com/od/marriage/a/courtship.htm So he might just be a cultural Muslim anyway. And once again, I'm not trying to put him down, just saying to make sure that you know what to expect, and what will be expected of you in return, going into the relationship.Saturday at 6:12pm · LikeUnlike. he has no kids,just a dog and I am done having anymore so that topic has been put to rest.Saturday at 6:45pm · LikeUnlike. And no jason they never saw the 20 yr sally field flick,,.. They have been brainwashed by christains since sept. 11thSaturday at 6:51pm · LikeUnlike.LOLSaturday at 7:14pm · LikeUnlike · 1. are his other wives OK with this?,....wait a sec, Mormon or Muslim? Oh yeah, same diff,( as far as number of wives is concerned )Saturday at 7:27pm · LikeUnlike · 1. and I'm TOTALLY down with it,.....must get kind of expensive though.Saturday at 7:29pm · LikeUnlike · 1. Oh, ok. And in case anyone might get the wrong idea, I'm not meaning to personally lump anyone together. But I do reserve the right to voice my concerns, and make whatever criticisms i deem appropiate, under the Soviet constitution, which states this. "Article 52. Citizens of the USSR are guaranteed freedom of conscience, that is, the right to profess or not to profess any religion, and to conduct religious worship or atheistic propaganda. Incitement of hostility or hatred on religious grounds is prohibited.
In the USSR, the church is separated from the state, and the school from the church. " http://www.departments.bucknell.edu/russian/const/77cons02.html#chap07 So at any rate, hope it works out ok, Andrea. :)Saturday at 7:32pm · LikeUnlike. funny MCrow!Saturday at 7:33pm · LikeUnlike.Michael Crow lookinSaturday at 7:33pm · LikeUnlike.Fyi, Michael , Muslims are limited to no more than four wives. And they do have to be able to financially support them. So only the more wealthy of them, actually are polygamists.Saturday at 7:34pm · LikeUnlike · 1. You guys are great!Saturday at 7:38pm · UnlikeLike · 2. is an atheist......but I lean old testament,( when it comes to the acquisition of women )Saturday at 7:41pm · LikeUnlike · 1. Yikes! I sure do hope you're joking, In the Old Testament men were at times authorised to acquire women by force. One such example would be Numbers 31. This woman, who's a Revolutionary Communist party member makes mention of this, in this talk. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRG_yAbOB38 So yeah, no personal offense intended, but I feel that if some of the stuff in the bible were instead found in the Quran, we'd never hear the end of it from such persons as conservative commentators, about how supposedly evil it is. And understandedly so, I think.Saturday at 7:51pm · LikeUnlike. not to be rude, but I have no idea what you're talking about,...just having fun on facebook yo. I don't care what it says in any silly religious book. seriously,.............for comedic use only.Saturday at 8:14pm · LikeUnlike · 1. I presumed that you were just joking, but I just wanted to be sure. I was actually refering to when Moses ordered the killing of all Midianites, except for virgin women, who were to be used as sex slaves. I don't suppose that all that many Christians are aware of such scripture passages though.Saturday at 8:22pm · LikeUnlike · 2. indeed.Saturday at 8:30pm · LikeUnlike · 1. mike is my sarcastic friend jason. Or i would be going offSaturday at 8:30pm · UnlikeLike · 1. Seriously! I have some Muslim friends...I can't believe how some people react in public.Saturday at 10:00pm via mobile · LikeUnlike · 1.That pretty much makes me a fucking idiot then !Yesterday at 12:10am via mobile · LikeUnlike. he's NOT the only guy I'm talking to Jeff! I'm venting on this girls reaction!! & emphasize talking!!!!Yesterday at 12:14am · LikeUnlike · 1. I AM single & your wisdom is neededYesterday at 12:15am · LikeUnlike · 1. You are not an idiot! I value your input & don't worry,dude just showed himself in the last 3hrs. anyways...I'm single & I was talking to this guy before you gave me advice. I just hated this girls reaction to when I said he & I had a lunch date..I don't like discrimination in any form & the words she spewed made me rethink her & I's relationshipYesterday at 12:28am · LikeUnlike · 1. Just the facts ma'am... There are many Gods, but only ONE. Most High (who has ONE name).... Allah, is NOT his name, nor is he the Most High. Allah means God in Arabic (hes the God of the Arabs.....the Most High is the God of Abraham, Issach... & Jacob/Israel ... And NO OTHER NATION...... ALL other nations have thier OWN God.... i.e. Moab=Chineese/Buddah.....Elam=E. Indians/Krishna etc. .... You my dear, are an Israelite.... Now, go read the first commandment of the Most High.... NOW it should be obvious WHY it's the first...... See MoreYesterday at 1:35am via mobile · LikeUnlike · 1. Common misconception about Buddhism...Buddha is not 'our God.' There is no God in Buddhism, as it's not a religion per se. There are many Christian Buddhists, Catholic Buddhists, Atheist Buddhists, etc.Yesterday at 12:55pm via mobile · UnlikeLike · 1. Misconception ? .. Not so... Tell me please, the NAME or OUR God....Yesterday at 1:05pm via mobile · LikeUnlike. Zech 14:9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, AND HIS NAME ONE.Yesterday at 1:25pm · LikeUnlike · 1. Proverbs 30:4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?Yesterday at 1:29pm · LikeUnlike.SURELY you know THE NAME of "OUR God"...... here's a hint:... its a HEBREW name.... the is NO letter J in the Hebrew alphabet..... good luck ! LOL !Yesterday at 1:31pm · LikeUnlike.Jrffrey Logan For Drea... why I posted my first comment... (the Most High wants Israel to STAY WITH Israel) ..... Deuteronomy 7:3 Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son.Yesterday at 1:44pm · LikeUnlike · 1.and here's WHY ! .... Deuteronomy 7:6 For you are a holy people unto the LORD your God: the LORD your God has chosen you to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth. ...... "All m...en are created equal"? ... NOT !! (we Israelites were in SLAVERY when that was written... 3 fifths of a man ! )..... shall I go on .... or stop here ? .....Think I'll let the scoffers seal thier fate.......Scoff on !See MoreYesterday at 1:49pm · LikeUnlike. Ok, . I will respond to this, as you've not only defamed the faith of the man in question, whom besides being Muslim is likely black, but also me as well, who is white. See, I'm a deist http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism, and a...s such I believe that God encompasses the God of Abrahamic faiths, including Islam, but also transcends them. For He is not only the God of scripture, but is also the God of nature, mentioned in the "Declaration of Independence". Why there happen to be self professed Christan Deists too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Deist And I don't see why there couldn't just as well be Muslim Deists. In fact I like to refer to myself as being a Hanafian, as Hanafia is Arabic word for Deism. And eventhough most people seem to think that deism is a religion for old dead white men, we are still around in some degree. And if blacks, and/or other peoples wish to accept the deist faith, they're most welcome to. But our founding fathers, many of whom were deists, recognised the inherent right of all people to adhere to whatever religion they deem fit. And, for what it's worth, Thomas Jefferson owned a copy of the Quran. The very same Quran which Rep. Keith Ellison used in his swearing in photo. I suppose that when a white person is asked if he believes in God, and answers in the affirmative, it is assumed that he is a Christian. While if a black person is asked the same question, and says yes, people might wonder if he's a Muslim. But I say that Islam is not just for peoples of color, such as but not limited to those of African descent, but for all nations. Just as Christianity is not just for Caucasians. For the Divine Creator is Lord of all creation, black, and white alike, and desires that all people, from all cultures, and traditions, come to know Him, and follow his Law of Nature. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_nature_(precept) Which is refered to as the inner law in Romans 2:14-15 P.S. I certainly support the idea of interfaith romance, as a general principle. Namely because it's so relatively difficult for a deist, especially a man, to find other deists to court. Which was why the deist founding fathers married conventionally Christian wives.See MoreYesterday at 2:20pm · LikeUnlike.Jrffrey Logan I have a Class (Bible) right now, then will I go into the street and do "the Work"..... I will address your comment point by point (w/scripture) with the WORD of the one and only TRUE GOD... and cut through ALL LIES and FALSEHOOD, when I am... finished (w/the Work). But I'll say this now... This is NOT about religion, NOR is it about black or white ( my skin is brown & you sir are NOT white.... That is a LIE)..... this is about your NATIONALITY according to what the MOST HIGH made you to be.... And nothing more or less ... Just the FACTS (man) Ma'am ! :). ..... Until then...See MoreYesterday at 2:46pm via mobile · LikeUnlike · 1. Many thoughts-first is that if you value your relationship with this friend who reacted negatively, consider that she "may" have your best interests at heart. I often wonder if I should be totally honest with my friends but I'm ready to take the repercussions if someone doesn't like what I say. As long as what I say comes from the heart/beliefs and is shared in love.Yesterday at 6:19pm · LikeUnlike · 1. Secondly, being a mom of young children gives us different responsibilities in dating/friendships than if we are only responsible for ourselves. Lunch with someone is different than inviting someone to share in your life and therefore your child's life.Yesterday at 6:22pm · LikeUnlike · 1.Exactly Terry!! Thanks for all the input. I appreciate it all!Yesterday at 6:32pm · LikeUnlike. I"m Baaaack !.... O.K. Jason-White (your words)... first of all I have defamed no ones faith... I'm only pointing out what the Bible CLEARLY says.....Second, we will deal with Ishmael(Arab), Abrahams first son... Romans 9:7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.22 hours ago · LikeUnlike. That( Rom 9:7) just eliminated Ishmael from being the Most High's chosen.... he skipped over Ishmael and went straight to Issach. EVERYBODY knows the Most High is the God of Abraham, ISSACH and Jacob(whose name was changed to Israel)..... NOT Abraham Ishmael and whomever.....22 hours ago · LikeUnlike.Jrffrey Logan Islam (Muslim) is a RELIGION....The Most High having chosen the Children of Israel IS NOT.... he chose one people (Nation-Race) over ALL OTHERS...and doesnt give a SPIT about ANY OTHER NATION (race) of people than the Israelites !22 hours ago · LikeUnlike · 1.Jrffrey Logan 2 Esdras 6:54 And after these, Adam also, whom thou madest lord of all thy creatures: of him come we all, and the people also whom thou hast chosen.
6:55All this have I spoken before thee, O Lord, because thou madest the world for our sa...kes
6:56As for the other people, which also come of Adam, thou hast said that they are nothing, but be like unto spittle: and hast likened the abundance of them unto a drop that falleth from a vessel.See More
22 hours ago · LikeUnlike · 1.Now will I address the He's a "Black Muslim" thing... I am almost sure he's a "Black Man", but what I'm sure he DOESNT know (& you for that matter) is that the "so-called African Americans" whose ancestry goes back to American slavery are ACTUALLY ... Israelites from the Tribe of Judah, as was the nationality (race) of the one the world ignorantly calls Jesus Christ, the original Angry Black Man.22 hours ago · LikeUnlike · 1.This is what happend to THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL.... Deuteronomy 28:68 And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you.22 hours ago · LikeUnlike · 1. EVERYBODY knows "Jesus" was(is) a Jew I Hebrews 7:14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.22 hours ago · LikeUnlike · 1.Jrffrey Logan .... BUT, do they know that "the Jews" are "Black".... Jeremiah 14:2 Judah mourneth, and the gates thereof languish; they are black unto the ground; and the cry of Jerusalem is gone up.22 hours ago · LikeUnlike · 1.Jrffrey Logan If you care to READ the discription of "the original angry black man) ... read Rev 1:13-14... & Dan 10:5-6...... What you will find, is that instead of the portrait of a one Cesare Borgia (google it) you get an (angry) black man with white(grey)-wooly hair.22 hours ago · LikeUnlike · 2.Jrffrey Logan ..... so, do you understand what I'm getting at here.... I dont give a DAMN, what "religion" you choose... I give a damn if you are of THE ELECT of ISRAEL..... AGAIN the man is most likely an Israelite from the tribe of Judah (sorry Drea :...) ).... but if he chooses to be a muslim.... THATS HIS CHOICE !!! He's STILL an Israelite from the tribe of Judah, and according to the 1st commandment, the most high is gonna DEAL WITH his ass.... just like he did Malcom X....who was a Judhite who chose to serve other gods!See More
21 hours ago · LikeUnlike · 1. As for ..... Our Founding Fathers LOL !! .... they were ALL Masons, and worship the demonic god Baphomet, as according to Albert Pike in his book Morals & Dogma clearly states "Doubt it Not" ... google that too !21 hours ago · LikeUnlike · 1. Here's something else I bet you dont know (as you have been thoroughly deceived), All "black people are NOT the same ..... Barack Obama is an African... his Daddy is an African.... but his wife is an Israelite (albeit a wicked one).....Th...e ancient Egyptians were Africans.... but whom did they have in slavery.....uhhh ... that would be us ! The 12 tribes of the Nation of Israel... Now the heiroglyphics make it OBVIOUS that the Egyptians (@ the time of Moses) were black Africans... and thier slaves the Children of Israel (the Most Highs Chosen) were "black" as well.... otherwise how could Moses have "PASSED" for an Egyptian.... and WHY did Cecil B. Demille leave this all important scene out of his"monumental" film "The Ten Commandments" (in living color....NOT).... Exodus 4:6 And the LORD said furthermore unto him, Put now thine hand into thy bosom. And he put his hand into his bosom: and when he took it out, behold, his hand was leprous as snow.
Exodus 11:7 But against any of the children of Israel shall not a dog move his tongue, against man or beast: that ye may know how that the LORD doth put a difference between the Egyptians and Israel.See More
21 hours ago · LikeUnlike · 1.The Egyptians decend from Noah's son Ham, .... while the Israelites decend from Noah's son Shem, which is where you get the term anti-semite.... (should be anti-Shemite).....21 hours ago · LikeUnlike.Jrffrey Logan Now.... Jason... I'm sure you're wondering... "well, who am I in the Bible"....LOL !!! .... Here is where it gets tricky, so pay attention & read things over again if need be ! You see, Issac (sorry for the H earlier) had TWO sons, not ...just Jacob...Jake had a twin (paternal) brother named Esau.... and remember I called you a liar when you said that you were WHITE.... well you're not white, you're ACTUALLY translucent (see thru)... and what I see when I am seeing thru your skin............. is your blood ! .... Jason, you're RED !See More
21 hours ago · LikeUnlike. Genesis 25:25 And the first came out RED, all over like an hairy garment; and they called his name Esau.21 hours ago · LikeUnlike.Jrffrey Logan ..... now, just because you are "white" doesnt necessarily make you the decendant of Esau, but, that together with the fact that you dont believe in God....(and that Deism thing, is just a polite way of saying you dont)...leads me to believe that you sir are an EDOMITE !21 hours ago · LikeUnlike....... more bad news ( Jason)..... Has an Edomite ever told you that "little white lie", that God ( the Most High) loves EVERYBODY.... Well, I know you didnt believe it cause you dont even believe in The Most High !21 hours ago · LikeUnlike.Jrffrey Logan ...... and here's why ...... Malachi 1:2 I have loved you, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esau Jacob's brother? saith the LORD: yet I loved Jacob, 3And I hated Esau.....21 hours ago · LikeUnlike.If God hated me, .... I wouldnt believe in him either !21 hours ago · LikeUnlike.Jrffrey Logan ...So, why did I say earlier that Andrea was an Israelite ? ......... Well, for one....... She believes in the Most High.... for two...... "she got swagger" ! (my words)....... and three, I've tried her spirit ! (she IS an Israelite ...striving for righteousness).... and my comments were for her, not you (Jason).... but I expected some DUMB-ASS to attack the word of the Most High (yeah, thats scriptural too) here ya go.. 2 Peter 2:16 But was rebuked for his iniquity: the DUMB ASS speaking with man's voice forbad the madness of the prophet.See More
20 hours ago · LikeUnlike......AND I'll have you know that Terry (above) is "white" but also an Israelite, and would most likely coroborate and agree with EVERYTHING I've posted here ! (proud of her) ...20 hours ago · LikeUnlike · 1.Jrffrey Logan .... knowing that you'll come back a spew some more ridiculous religion (yes deism is a religion too), I'll close with this..... Psalm 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniq...uity: there is none that doeth good.
....... and this..... 1 John 4:1-3 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 2Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 3And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the worldSee More
20 hours ago · LikeUnlike., you are the spirit of anti-Christ, and although I know I wasted my time on you, this was actually for the edification of others who may be reading.......... oh yeah, ALL SCOFFERS ARE WELCOME TO CONDEMN THEMSELVES !20 hours ago · LikeUnlike.Jrffrey Logan ....... WARNING (red letters means Jesus is speaking) Luke 10:16 He that heareth you heareth me; and he that despiseth you despiseth me; and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me.20 hours ago · LikeUnlike............ Cheers ! (apologies Drea for using your thread as a forum)20 hours ago · LikeUnlike.1. Just as I thought, you're a Black Hebrew Israelite. http://www.religioustolerance.org/bhi.htm/ At first though, before I checked your profile's photos, I was under the impression that you seemed to be an Anglo-Israelite http://en.wikipe...dia.org/wiki/British_Israelism, which I would find to be the mirror opposite. 2. As it pertains to Freemasonry, Albert Pike did not speak as an authority on Freemasonry as a whole. He only gave his own insights. But the Lucifer mentioned in his "Morals and Dogma" was a different being than what Christians commonly mean. http://www.masonicinfo.com/lucifer.htm And not all Masons are deists. Freemasons may be of any religion that affirms one God. Plus, for what it matters, I've not joined any such lodge either. And some groups within the Order, such as the Knights Templar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_Templar_(Freemasonry) actually require that it's members be Christian. Plus there is even Prince Hall Freemasonry, which is specificly for blacks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Hall_Freemasonry 3. Lastly, I believe, from what I've read, and remember from the Bible, that God desires that all people be saved, and come to the knowledge of the truth. I Timothy 2:4 Not only blacks, or only whites, but all. And anyway, whether or not supposed Israelites are black, or white, in appearance, it does not matter anyway. Galations 3:28, Colossians 3:11, Romans 10:12 I don't know what your relationship to Andrea Iness is, or how she feels about your belief system; but I do know that not only is it untrue logicly, it's also untrue biblicly. And I furthermore assert that Andrea need not become an honorary Black Hebrew (would that be like being an honary Aryan in Nazi Germany? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honorary_Aryan) in order to be right before God. All that one must do, in my opinion, is to accept God, and His law, and repent of any transgressions. If one does this s/he will be righteous before God, and assured of Heaven. I'm sure glad that, by definition, God is benevolent, and just. Otherwise I'd contend that He'd be not a deity, but a monster/devil.See More20 hours ago · LikeUnlike.P.S. The reason why I do not think that it matters what one calls God is that as their is only one God, per my concept of the divine, He does not need a name. For instance, if I were the only man in existance, others would not need to call ...me by my personal name. They may simply refer to me as "the Man". This is what Muslims do, when they refer to God as Allah, which is a contraction of the words al ilah, which is Arabic for "the God".See More19 hours ago · LikeUnlike.what the ? well, you're right about one thing...... I am a (black) Hebrew Israelite...... just as you are a Red Hebrew Edomite.... ( and according to the scriptures Mal 1:4 God hate them)......19 hours ago · LikeUnlike. oops.... I meant to say, has righteous hatred for them (Edomites) forever ! Just the facts !19 hours ago · I must say to your credit, that the link you posted is prettymuch correct and I appreciated it, as I thought you would post something slanderous ! You still a Edomite tho !19 hours ago · LikeUnlike. By "our God", I was referring to your earlier comment, in which you called Buddha the 'god' of Buddhism. Like I said, that is a commen misconception about Buddhism...Buddha is not our god. People who don't understand Buddhism often state that Buddha is the god of Buddhism. He's not. I am an Atheist-Buddhist, I do not have a god. 18 hours ago via mobile · LikeUnlike · 3.WTF? Why would anyone say shit about you talking to a Muslim? Why is it any of their business? I bet they would have heart attacks if they knew you talked to me, a Pagan.18 hours ago · LikeUnlike · 3 Looks like Jrffrey would have a problem with me too. WTF is up with that bible shit?18 hours ago · LikeUnlike · 1. Shannon, I said that Buddah is the God of the Moabites(Chineese)......18 hours ago · LikeUnlike · 1. Buddha is not, and never was a god.17 hours ago ·
> I am an Atheist-Buddhist, I do not have a god.
I have lots of gods lol.17 hours ago · LikeUnlike · 1 Technically we have deities, but not a creator deity. I wish we had Thor, he's hot! Lol ;)9 hours ago via mobile · LikeUnlike...." Hopefully you all can make out where one post ends, and the others begin. :)
